The 8 debate

I don't know if any of you have been following the 8 debate about the best players, coaches and GMs on nhl.com. The basic jist is come up with you top 8 players for each position (criteria determined by you). We tot up the scores to see who comes out on top, a player received eight points for a first-place vote, seven for a second and so forth to one point for an eighth-place ranking. Since we don't have Barry Melrose I think we can come up with something better than they did.

If you are interested in what the 'experts' have to say here you are:
Centre: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658085
Left wing: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=659225
Right wing: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=660365
Defence: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=661465
Goaltender: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=662735
Coach: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=664268&navid=nhl:topheads
General manager: pending

Feel free to post yours up over the next week, I'm going to think about mine.

Centre
1. Pavel Datsyuk (why I watch hockey)
2. Sidney Crosby (cannot deny the talent)
3. Jonthan Toews (can do everything that is required of a centre superbly)
4. Patrice Bergeron (he is better than the other man almost always)
5. Steven Stamkos (should be a winger with that shot)
6. Evengi Malkin (equal to Crosby but without the pressure)
7. John Tavares (will move up this list)
8. Joe Thornton (consistent points disher with an undeserved rep)
Near misses: Jeff Carter, Ryan Getzlaf, Eric Staal, Jamie Benn

Left + right wing
I combined my wings for simplicity sake to avoid the “he plays on the other wing” debate
1. Illy Kovalchuk (plays D minutes effectively 2 way)
2. Bobby Ryan (maximum excitement)
3. Zach Parise (all-rounder)
4. Alex Ovechkin (mixed it with Crosby for 4 years)
5. Marty St Louis (great skating and hockey sense)
6. James Neal (can play with anyone)
7. Loui Eriksson (underrated)
8. Pat Kane (twat but great stick skills)
9. Rick Nash (not as good those above)
10. Matt Moulson (sniper with a bite)
11. Jarome Iginla (never makes a mistake)
12. Teemu Selanne (so smooth)
13. Evander Kane (rolls with the punches with fists and pucks)
14. Ryan Callaghan (leader and gritty)
15. Patrik Elias (player of a by-gone era)
16. Jaromir Jagr (nostalgic)
Near misses: Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, Corry Perry

Defence
1. Kris Letang (best two way coverage)
2. Zdeno Chara (beast)
3. Shea Weber (well-built all-rounder)
4. Kevin Shattenkirk (the new Suter)
5. Alex Pietrangelo (the new Weber)
6. Mark Streit (Lidstrom-esque composure, good with or without puck)
7. Nik Kronwall (brutal hitter)
8. Dustin Byfuglien (versatility, puck handling)
Near misses: Ryan Suter, PK Subban

Goaltender
1. Ryan Miller (aggressive, game winner)
2. Cam Ward (consistent, game winner)
3. Tukka Rask (mental)
4. Henrik Lundqvist (consistent)
5. Martin Brodeur (legend)
6. Pekka Rhinne (game winner)
7. Kari Lehtonen (consistent, explosive)
8. Seym Varmarlov (undeniable talent, needs to produce, pants team)
Near misses: Jonthan Quick, Nik Backstrom

Coaches
1. Ken Hitchcock (can work with anybody, system buy in)
2. Barry Trotz (resourceful)
3. Dave Tippett (resourceful)
4. Mike Babcock (gets results)
5. John Tortorella (fiery personality)
6. Dan Bylsama (get results and medic)
7. Randy Carlye (system buy in)
8. Paul MacLean (resourceful and medic)
Note: two of my favourites have recently left the game- Jaques Lemaire and Lindy Ruff

General Managers
1. Doug Armstrong (STL) trader, contracts
2. Bryan Murray (OTT) rebuilder
3. Ken Holland (DET) franchise architect
4. Ray Shero (PIT) franchise architect
5. Steve Tambellini (EDM) rebuilder
6. Chuck Fletcher (MIN) trader
7. Dave Tallon (FLR) rebuilder, contracts
8. Dean Lombardi (LAK) trader

What are you basing it on? This season only or multiple seasons? And should I be worried as I put mine together it looks nothing like yours?

MockingJay33 wrote:What are you basing it on?

Well I couldn't work out what criteria nhl.com used so I used a mix of past seasons, this season, traits I admire, pure talent, impact they would have, relevance to the league today etc. You can use whatever you like.

MockingJay33 wrote:should I be worried as I put mine together it looks nothing like yours?

Nope. It is your opinion after all! I quite like seeing what other people think so will be interested to see your lists.

So here we go......

Centre
1. Pavel Datsyuk
2. Sidney Crosby
3. Evgeni Malkin
4. Jonathan Toews
5. Steve Stamkos
6. Anze Kopitar
7. Henrik Zetterberg
8. John Tavares

Wingers (felt it easier to combine them too)
1. Ilya Kovalchuk
2. Alex Ovechkin
3. Zach Parise
4. Bobby Ryan
5. James Neal
6. Patrick Kane
7. Marty St Louis
8. Rick Nash
9. Corey Perry
10. Alex Semin
11. Max Pacioretty
12. Jakub Voracek
13. Marian Gaborik
14. Patrick Elias
15. Ryan Callahan
16. Chris Kunitz

Defence
1. Kris Letang
2. Andrei Markov - purely on his impact being out last year and then this year has been awesome. On par with how the Colts missed Peyton.
3. Zdeno Chara
4. Niklas Kronwall
5. Dan Girardi
6. Erik Karlsson
7. Shea Weber
8. P.K. Subban

Goalies
1. Nik Backstrom
2. Corey Crawford
3. Carey Price
4. Marc-Andre Fleury
5. Henrik Lundqvist
6. Jimmy Howard
7. Tuukka Rask
8. Antti Niemi

This is the part where my knowledge drops.

Coaches
1. Joel Quenneville
2. Dan Bylsma
3. Dave Tippett
4. Mike Babcock
5. Michel Therrien
6. Bruce Boudreau
7. Ken Hitchcock
8. John Tortorella

GMs
1. Ray Shero (PIT)
2. Chuck Fletcher (MIN)
3. Marc Bergevin (MTL)
4. Bob Murray (ANA)
5. Ken Holland (DET)
6. Dean Lombardi (LAK)
7. Bryan Murray (OTT)
8. Steve Tambellini (EDM)

Hmmm

Centre:
Steve Stamkos
Evgeni Malkin
Pavel Datsyuk
Sid Crosby
Anze Kopitar
Jon Toews
Eric Staal
Ryan Getzlaf

Wings:
Alex Ovechkin
Ilya Kovalchuk
Daniel Sedin
Jaromir Jagr
Teemu Selanne
Bobby Ryan
Pat Kane
Alex Semin
Marty St Louis
Dustin Brown
Jarome Iginla
Corey Perry
Evander Kane
Taylor Hall
Matt Moulson
Loui Eriksson

Defencemen:
Duncan Keith
Ryan Suter
Shea Weber
Kris Letang
Zdeno Chara
Brent Seabrook
Nik Kronwall
Kevin Shattenkirk

Goalies:
Henrik Lundqvist
Antti Niemi
Pekka Rinne
Martin Brodeur
Ryan Miller
Cam Ward
Carey Price
Tuukka Rask

Coaches:
Mike Babcock
Joel Quenneville
Dan Byslma
Claude Julien
Todd McClellan
Peter DeBoer
Ken Hitchcock
Darryl Sutter (!)

GMs:
Ray Shero
Ken Holland
Dean Lombardi
Chuck Fletcher
Doug Armstrong
Bryan Murray
Stan Bowman
Peter Chiarelli

Centre:
1. Datsyuk
2. Toews
3. Crosby
4. Malkin
5. Tavares
6. Kopitar
7. Backstrom
8. Thornton

Left Wing:
1. Ovechkin
2. E Kane
3. Parise
4. Neal
5. Hall
6. Vanek
7. Glencross
8. Pacioretty


Right Wing:
1. P Kane
2. St Louis
3. Giroux
4. Iginla
5. Jagr
6. Selanne
7. Semin
8. Simmonds

Defence:
1. Suter
2. E Karlson
3. Pietrangelo
4. Suban
5. Webber
6. keith
7. Streit
8. Voynov

Goalie:
1. Lundqvist
2. Price
3. Rinne
4. Anderson
5. Rask
6. Lehtonen
7. Miller
8. Reimer


I don't really pay attention to coaches and GM's so my votes wouldn't be based on anything.

Yay Datsyuk is winning

BuffonIdol wrote:Yay Datsyuk is winning

Datsyuk allways wins! You can't out Datsyuk Pavel Datsyuk