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Post by rocknrollnobody Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:10 pm

Azzy Luongo wrote:I think Team Alfie is going to wipe the floor with Team Munster. It's Swede-a-rific Very Happy

You're only saying that because both Sedins and Edler are on the same team.

It think Chara's team will dominate.

Opening faceoff

Thomas

Phaneuf
Chara

Malkin
Datsyuk
Iginla


It's enough to make you actually want to watch the ASG for a change.
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Post by BuffonIdol Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:34 pm

I think team Chara is better in every way possible, except for goaltending which counts for nothing in an All-Star game.
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Post by ronnie pander Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:40 pm

Surely only one team would dominate if they actually gave a crap - which of course they don't.

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Post by rocknrollnobody Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:44 pm

BuffonIdol wrote:I think team Chara is better in every way possible, except for goaltending which counts for nothing in an All-Star game.

Surely Thomas, Price and Howard are better goalies than Lunqvist, Quick and Elliott?
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Post by BuffonIdol Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:04 am

rocknrollnobody wrote:Surely Thomas, Price and Howard are better goalies than Lunqvist, Quick and Elliott?

Not this season they're not! Also remember my brewery of hatred for Price...
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Post by Calamity Jane Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:21 am

rocknrollnobody wrote:
Opening faceoff

Thomas

Phaneuf
Chara

Malkin
Datsyuk
Iginla


It's enough to make you actually want to watch the ASG for a change.

Have to say that is pretty much my dream team right there.
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Post by Azzy Luongo Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:45 am

There's barely any hitting in the ASG. I think Team Alfie is far more skilled than Team Munster, so should have no trouble.
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Post by rocknrollnobody Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:47 am

Azzy Luongo wrote:There's barely any hitting in the ASG. I think Team Alfie is far more skilled than Team Munster, so should have no trouble.

Should you prove correct Sire, I shall doff my cap in your direction, but I must say that it seems far fetched. I reckon team Chara will win, and probably by 2-3 goals.
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Post by Lord SKAgiraffe Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:03 am

Azzy Luongo wrote:There's barely any hitting in the ASG. I think Team Alfie is far more skilled than Team Munster, so should have no trouble.

Hmm...

Datsyuk > Spezza
Malkin > Giroux
Seguin < H. Sedin
Benn > Tavares

Couture = Lupul
Hossa = Alfredsson
Perry = D. Sedin
Kessel > Michalek
Kane > Neal
Iginla > Pominville
Gaborik > Hartnell

Chara > Karlsson
Timmonen = Letang
Suter = Weber
Campbell > Girardi
Phaneuf > Yandle
Wideman > Edler

Thomas < Lundqvist
Price < Quick
Howard > Elliot

I make that Team Chara more skilled.
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Post by mc_homer Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:06 am

I agree Team Chara has the better team on paper. Team Alfie has Dan Girardi for a start who isn't exactly a point getter Razz

Datsyuk and Malkin is a scary prospect for any team to deal with.

In any case its all about the super skills I can't wait Smile
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Post by Azzy Luongo Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:26 am

I greatly disagree with about half of your ratings Leafy:

Benn < Tavares
Chara < Karlsson (in a non-physical game)
Timmonen << Letang
Suter < Weber
Phaneuf << Yandle
Wideman << Edler

Team Alfie has a massively superior D, the top scorer in the league, the best goalie, the last two art Ross winners, the hit hand (Tavares). A comfortable win for the home team.
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Post by Lord SKAgiraffe Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:38 am

Azzy Luongo wrote:I greatly disagree with about half of your ratings Leafy:

Benn < Tavares
Chara < Karlsson (in a non-physical game)
Timmonen << Letang
Suter < Weber
Phaneuf << Yandle
Wideman << Edler

Team Alfie has a massively superior D, the top scorer in the league, the best goalie, the last two art Ross winners, the hit hand (Tavares). A comfortable win for the home team.

Strange, I thought Malkins 58 points led the league scratch
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Post by BuffonIdol Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:45 am

Well Stamkos has scored the most goals, Malkin has scored the most points. The phrasing is ambiguous.

Anyway children, the point is we have a Bruins vs Canucks situation here which means team Chara beats two bells out of team wuss cheers
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Post by J-Iggy Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:54 am

Oh who cares which team is best. All thats going to happen is they will all skate around like a bunch of scared Crosbys and no one will care.

It would be more entertaining to create these two teams in NHL 12 and watch the computer play.
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Post by Azzy Luongo Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:58 am

A scorer scores. Ergo, Stamkos is the NHLs top scorer Wink

Considering there will be no foul play, I'm looking forward to Sedin-Sedin-Neal opening a can of whoop-ass on Tim 'KKK' Thomas Very Happy
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Post by NYR_UK_Marc Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:03 am

rocknrollnobody wrote:
BuffonIdol wrote:I think team Chara is better in every way possible, except for goaltending which counts for nothing in an All-Star game.

Surely Thomas, Price and Howard are better goalies than Lunqvist, Quick and Elliott?

Lundqvist > Thomas
Quick > Price
Elliot > Howard
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Post by Paddywan Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:04 am

Azzy Luongo wrote:A scorer scores. Ergo, Stamkos is the NHLs top scorer Wink

Considering there will be no foul play, I'm looking forward to Sedin-Sedin-Neal opening a can of whoop-ass on Tim 'KKK' Thomas Very Happy

Defending is "foul play" now? I must have missed the rule change.
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Post by BuffonIdol Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:05 am

Azzy Luongo wrote:A scorer scores.

No a scorer keeps track of the scores Wink
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Post by rocknrollnobody Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:14 am

NYR_UK_Marc wrote:
rocknrollnobody wrote:
BuffonIdol wrote:I think team Chara is better in every way possible, except for goaltending which counts for nothing in an All-Star game.

Surely Thomas, Price and Howard are better goalies than Lunqvist, Quick and Elliott?

Lundqvist > Thomas
Quick > Price
Elliot > Howard

Lundqvist v Thomas
Lundqvist P36 W22 GAA1.87 S%.937
Thomas P31 W20 GAA2.12 S%.933
Close call since Thomas has played 5 games less than Henrik, but these are the stats as of now, a day before the ASG, so Henrik takes it.

Quick v Price
Quick P42 W21 GAA1.93 S%.934
Price P42 W17 GAA2.40 S%.914
Obvious win for Quick

Elliott v Howard
Elliott GP23 W15 GAA1.69 S%.938
Howard GP42 W30 GAA2.03 S%.924
Although Elliott has the better GAA and S%, you have to estimate if his stats would be that good after 42 games. Either way, his stats right now are better than Howard's, so Elliott takes in.

Seem you're right Marc, and although I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong, I'm deeply shocked that Elliott and Lundqvist win their head-to-heads, but not at all surprised Quick is better than Price, who I believe is possibly the most overrated Goaltender in the league right now. I'd have Fleury, Niemi or Kipper between the pipes in a heartbeat.
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Post by NYR_UK_Marc Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:37 am

Lundqvist is the best netminder in the world. Fluery is awesome but isnt as consistent as Henrik.
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Post by BuffonIdol Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:39 am

NYR_UK_Marc wrote:Lundqvist is the best netminder in the world.

Razz
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Post by BuffonIdol Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:40 am

Oi Rocker it was me that pointed out the better goaltending team to you... twice... before Marc even popped his head in.


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Post by ronnie pander Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:48 am

Gettin' Iggy with it wrote:

It would be more entertaining to create these two teams in NHL 12 and watch the computer play.

You mean watch them skate into each other like headless chickens and then simply freeze like statues half-way through the 3rd period?
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Post by J-Iggy Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:54 am

ronnie pander wrote:
Gettin' Iggy with it wrote:

It would be more entertaining to create these two teams in NHL 12 and watch the computer play.

You mean watch them skate into each other like headless chickens and then simply freeze like statues half-way through the 3rd period?

Well obviously we would have to get someone with the xbox version to do it Razz
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Post by NYR_UK_Marc Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:58 am

BuffonIdol wrote:
NYR_UK_Marc wrote:Lundqvist is the best netminder in the world.

Razz

Care to offer another name ? Reimer ?
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